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Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 14 Oct 2016 12:16
by yuri1973
Hello all,
I'm wishing to replace the original non-locking tuners on my 2004 Supra for a locking model. The ones it has now are 6 in-line, non locking, and with a screw to secure it to the headstock (see photo). Are those originals made by Schaller? Gotoh? .... other?
My main question is if I can find a drop-in replacement but with locking mechanism of the usual brands, without altering at all the headstock (i.e. not drilling any additional holes for a screw or for a pin, etc..).
Any hints? Which make/model has a drop-in replacement?
Thanks in advance!
Jorge
p.s. this is a fixed-bridge (hardtail) Supra

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 19:24
by yuri1973
anyone any idea?
It looks like Gotoh SG-360 may be a drop-in replacement ... ?? Schaller M6 mini ??

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 27 Oct 2016 09:25
by yuri1973
help please ...

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 10:23
by yuri1973
help still needed ... good weekend !

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 14:08
by Ben
The machine heads used on Vigier guitars are made by Schaller. 

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 14:24
by yuri1973
yuri1973 wrote: The machine heads used on Vigier guitars are made by Schaller. 
Many thanks Ben,
funnily enough, I've browsed through Schaller's web page a few times trying to find that model (same form factor)... the closest I've seen is the "M6 mini" ... is it another model or that one?
I'm worried that I may purchase a set of "M6 mini locking" and they end up not being a drop-in replacement (different screw/center tuning post distance)
Cheers!

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 14:37
by Ben
It is the M6 range made for Vigier (locking version pin type - without the screws) - are you wanting the locking version, if so I do not think it is 'drop-in' replacement as the screw holes will be in a slightly different position.

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 14:48
by yuri1973
well .... what I would like is to take out those in picture above (which I believe they're even still used on locking-nut models i.e. Excalibur Originals), and replace them with a locking model with screw, so I was hoping a "M6 mini locking" would do the trick.
Let me put the question in a different way: Are the non-locking tuners on Vigiers the "M6 mini" model? If they are, then "M6 mini locking" will do the job as it has the same form factor
 
I get that the locking model used now on most Vigiers are pin model, with oversize thumb-wheel. That's not good for me as the screw hole will be visible (I'm picky)
 

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 15:02
by Ben
The model is M6-2000
I think Patrice is best to give a definitive answer for fit on this one...

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 16:06
by 1Patrice Vigier
Sorry to say but I do not know....

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 16:17
by yuri1973
mmmm .... you don't know which model* you put on your guitars?
* the non-locking ones

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 16:25
by 1Patrice Vigier
The non locking are Gotho SG360-07

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 16:27
by yuri1973
Brilliant ... Thanks !!! I'm a happy man now and I see the light !!!
I'll soon share a pic of my Vigiers (it's a big family growing)

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 17:41
by 1Patrice Vigier

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 08 Jan 2017 18:24
by yuri1973
Changed the hardware on the Supra, locking tuners * (and other bits), in gold !
HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM VIGIER FAMILY :-)
 
 

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 09 Jan 2017 08:41
by 1Patrice Vigier
Wooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 09 Jan 2017 09:53
by Ben
Nice collection!! Happy New Year!! 

Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

Posted: 10 Jan 2017 10:01
by yuri1973
Happy New Year to you too !
Ben/Patrice ... I was wondering, as the pickguard on the Natural Supra is cracked and ugly on a few places, can I order a mirror-gold HSH pickguard to replace it?
Any part number/reference I can use to speed up the process?
How could I order it? (not sure if Letusa is still the distributor in Spain for your products).
Regards