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Intonation Problem
Posted: 28 Dec 2008 09:44
by tdalexandru
Hello, I have a Vigier Excalibur Original, and it has a strange intonation problem. On the 5th string (A) the harmonic at the 12th fret is intonated with the open string but when I fret the 12th fret it's not intonated anymore (I don't push to hard on the fret, just enough to make it ring, so my finger is not the problem). However, if the fretted note at the 12th fret is intonated with the open string, the harmonic isn't. Could you please explain me what is going on?Alex.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 28 Dec 2008 13:40
by Sascha Muhr
here's what I would do:- change strings.if that doesn't help i'd make sure, that the half of the string (-> where the '12th fret-harmonic' is) is directly above the 12th fret.to do so you would have to adjust the little saddle on the bridge further TO the neck or away from it.( depends if the fretted note is higher, or lower than the harmonic)but i htink it's not very likely( if the guitar is new) , because my vigier was set up perfectly , and according to basically all others theirs ,too.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 28 Dec 2008 13:48
by tdalexandru
tdalexandru wrote:here's what I would do:- change strings.if that doesn't help i'd make sure, that the half of the string (-> where the '12th fret-harmonic' is) is directly above the 12th fret.to do so you would have to adjust the little saddle on the bridge further TO the neck or away from it.( depends if the fretted note is higher, or lower than the harmonic)but i htink it's not very likely( if the guitar is new) , because my vigier was set up perfectly , and according to basically all others theirs ,too.
Hi, the strings are new. The guitars isn't new ... I bought it used. I think I'll take it to a luthier in January.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 30 Dec 2008 08:08
by 1Patrice Vigier
A new string does not necessary means a good string, what brand do you use?
Intonation Problem
Posted: 30 Dec 2008 12:51
by tdalexandru
tdalexandru wrote:A new string does not necessary means a good string, what brand do you use?
I use Blue Steel.In order to get the fretted note at 12th fret in tune with the open string (A), I have to move the saddle in the back at maximum. So much backwards that the fine tuner can't go all the way down anymore and the action on the string gets higher.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 02 Jan 2009 08:20
by 1Patrice Vigier
No wonder! Dean Markley is one of the worst brand, use Ernie Ball or D'Addario.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 02 Jan 2009 08:51
by KEV V6 255
Ernie's for me
Intonation Problem
Posted: 06 Jan 2009 15:15
by tdalexandru
Fixed it! The strings were the problem, even though they were new ... I'll start using Ernie Ball's from now on! Thanks a lot guys!
Intonation Problem
Posted: 06 Jan 2009 20:04
by 1Patrice Vigier
Strings are very important... it is where the sound start...bad strings = bad guitar.
Intonation Problem
Posted: 09 Jan 2009 15:15
by Fredrik Pihl
tdalexandru wrote:Strings are very important... it is where the sound start...bad strings = bad guitar.
Amen to that Patrice.