Let's talk about the amps, effects, etc… that you use with your Vigier, tell us how you get your sound.
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Ben
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28 May 2007 19:15
As the title says...
I use various different F/X pedals, this tends to change all the time as I do like to experiment with different pedals and gear when in the studio. In my home studio setup I use a Line 6 Pod XT Live.
...For playing live I simplify my effects setup to this...
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Ben
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30 May 2007 11:11
Ben wrote: I don't like Boss at all.Well depends, the GT5 was a really unique effects processor.I gave up on single effects. creates too much nois pollution.I ended up buying a Rocktron G100 and i have to say i'm totally blown away by the sound it delivers.It's Cheap but sounds great. The Distortion and cleans are OK, but the effects are outstanding.I've tried Vox tonelab and POD XT too.The tonelab is cool for vintage stuff but the effects are not very good, the POD is 100% authentic garbage.By that i mean it's fun to play but the sounds are ok, not great.Over-rated, but definitely necessary to get to know the differences between a Mesa and a Plexi, a Vox and a Fender....
This is true; I use my Line 6 Pod XT Live for quick home demos or clinics, easy to use, quick to get an ok workable sound and I can take it as hand luggage. The Boss pedals I find do the job for me live (notice I don't use the Boss tuner though)...I did have a Rocktron Prophesy for some time - now THAT was the most impressive F/X I have ever used, I am a big fan of Rocktron and wish I had never sold it...If only my Mesa had midi compatibility. I went away from racks as they were too big and a pain for me to transport.
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02 Jun 2007 15:55
I use these pedalboards for the surfreter etc.: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2421653240055434249QwvNTi http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2166167130055434249eleVqV
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1Patrice Vigier
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02 Jun 2007 18:04
Ben wrote:I use these pedalboards for the surfreter etc.: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2421653240055434249QwvNTi http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2166167130055434249eleVqV
You meanhttp://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2421653240055434249QwvNTihome-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2166167130055434249eleVqV
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02 Jun 2007 18:25
Ben wrote: Ben wrote:I use these pedalboards for the surfreter etc.: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2421653240055434249QwvNTi http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2166167130055434249eleVqV
You meanhttp://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2421653240055434249QwvNTihome-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2166167130055434249eleVqV
ok... I will download and install firefox instead of using safari...
thanks !
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Ed DeGenaro
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05 Jun 2007 22:08
A bit hard to see..TC Electronic G-Sharp for delay and verb that's pretty much always the sameEventide Eclipse for the bulk of all efxPalmer 04 line-out/speaker simIn the bottom of the rack...All the switching is done via the T-rex looper in the rack driven by the T-rex midi board on my pedal board with some expression pedals for efx level etc.Emma Reeza overdriveEmma Onomonapea overdriveBoss octave pedalIbanez AD9 delayRed Witch Analog PhaserEmma transmogrifier envelope filterEmma Discumbabulator compressorAlso on the pedal board Dunlop wah, Ernie Ball volume, and Korg Tuner
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1Patrice Vigier
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06 Jun 2007 10:07
Ed, did you try the delay that is in the Rocktron Prophesy? The big advantage is what they call the ducker delay. It dump the delay while you are playing. Once you try that you cannot (almost) come back to an other delay.If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean
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Ed DeGenaro
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06 Jun 2007 21:51
Ben wrote:Ed, did you try the delay that is in the Rocktron Prophesy? The big advantage is what they call the ducker delay. It dump the delay while you are playing. Once you try that you cannot (almost) come back to an other delay.If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean, If you see what I mean
I have used ducking delays ever since I came across them in the TC 2290 many years ago...up to my set-up where I just carry a pedal board and rent amps (the Line 6 DL 4 has a ducker in it). However when I went back to a rack I realised that for me it's simply too much sauce on the tone when I need to duck the effect. Both the Eventide and the TC in my rack have duckers but I think I have used to for about 5 minutes total so far.
That said I have an expression pedal for my wet/dry mix so I can actually sweep the amount of effect I want in and out.
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Ed DeGenaro
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07 Jun 2007 19:44
Sorry Patrice but you're mistaken.It has it, as a matter of fact the ducker is TC's baby, except it's called Dynamic Delayhttp://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=809
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1Patrice Vigier
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08 Jun 2007 08:19
Ben wrote:I also have a TC G Force and it does not have a the ducker delay.
Shame on me, I never see it.......... I will check where it is in the G Force...
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1Patrice Vigier
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08 Jun 2007 08:50
Dynamic Delay as known from the TC 2290:This feature that
dampens the Output of the Delay while you play a phrase and increases
the Delay Output level in between phrases can also be setup in the
G-Force. It is done via the Mod Matrix using an Envelope on the Delay
Output. The fastest way to set this up is using one of the factory
presets with Dynamic Delay. Detailed explanation can be found in the
manual.I did not see that, I will try that tomorow....thank you Ed to make me feel stupid
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Ed DeGenaro
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08 Jun 2007 14:07
Glad to be of service...
On a different note after years of running one cab for the dry signal, and another cab(s) for the effects I went back to mix signal and the amp loaded down again. And I gotta say, I much prefer that. I now can have swells and backwards delays agains that just didn't work with the wet/dry set-up.
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1Patrice Vigier
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08 Jun 2007 21:52
I went stereo not a long time ago with a Diezel VH4-S, since I do not have much time between work, practicing and experimenting, I'm still a beginner. But I can say that I prefer stereo than mono :=)Uwe Salwender told me that something is a killer; It is a dry mono amp in the center and a stereo amp to go on each side. I may try that one time with my VH4 and my VH4-S...
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1Patrice Vigier
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08 Jun 2007 21:54
Ben wrote:Glad to be of service...
You know that I know :=) that you make more for Vigier than you should and now I know that you also do it for Patrice
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Ed DeGenaro
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08 Jun 2007 22:07
That's what I'm talking about with the wet/dry set-up.You run the guitar into the amp, then take the amp's output into a line-out load box. Like a Palmer PDI, or a Hot Plate. Then from there you send the speaker signal to a dry cab, and the live-level to efx to a power amp into a stereo cab or 2 seperate cabs.
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Mathieu M.
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26 Jun 2007 10:27
Over my 5150II I only use a Boss GE-7 EQ, and just to get rid of the fuzzy brightness/scoop the mids. With the volume control on that thing I can also use it like a sort of load box: simply turn down some of the volume in the FX-loop, whilst the tubes are a roostin'. It sounds nice that way and better than some amps that cost thrice the amount. My old amp is a Marshall VS8280 which I've hooked up with an ancient Digitech RP-10 v2.0 floorprocessor. That thing's got all the effects I'd ever need (even a whammy, yay!) and which I hardly ever use hehe. I've noticed that using a lot of (digital) effects is detrimental to tone. Either the signal turns bad with hum stacked upon hum stacked upon noisegate upon a compressor, or your playing gets affected adversely because it's too easy to get an acceptable sound through digital means, which causes your fingers/tendons to become weak. Axe-Cable-Amp...that's my kind of playing. All the modern emulator stuff is great for recording, though. Just mix it in with the rest of the music and the blandness almost disappears. All kinds of digital filter can do more damage to a good tube tone.
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13 Jul 2007 21:23
The ducking delay is quite easy even with a regular delay, if you stick a compressor somewhere after the delay in the chain... I put mine (compressor that is) in the FX/loop of my JMP-1s, and the delays and stuff before the preamps, and it does ducking delay with no worries. Lovely! :)
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15 Jul 2007 19:19
i mainly just use my amp chanals and a boss delay. the excalibur custom sounds great with the jsx head and a * cab. i have a boss ds1 but its not as clear at loud volumes in band situations so i dont use it much.
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23 Aug 2007 00:01
Check my sig for effect...anyone happen to know about my boost By the way you guys totally kill me with all your effect processor...I'm buying to many amps and guitar ...I personnaly need a G-System and some power conditionner...That will be all for Processor after that!!...then I'll get back to buying more amps and Guitars!! See Ya Coolriffs
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27 Aug 2007 00:33
I've gone back and forth with processors and stompboxes since I started playing, and have decided I like to have both :) I've recently gotten into modding pedals, so I tend to like them better now. It's crazy how good you can get some cheap pedals sounding by swapping a handful of components.
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27 Aug 2007 00:52
Ben wrote:I've gone back and forth with processors and stompboxes since I started playing, and have decided I like to have both :) I've recently gotten into modding pedals, so I tend to like them better now. It's crazy how good you can get some cheap pedals sounding by swapping a handful of components.
I see in your sig you got a 62 Lespaul SG...Congrats...beautifull instrument...any pics?
That is the original guitar of Legendary Frank Marino!!
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Chris
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27 Aug 2007 02:26
As a matter of fact, I do :)http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/jbfh/Picture004.jpgEdit - Hmmm....I guess I don't know how to use the software here yet. Copy those URLs into your browser to see it.
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27 Aug 2007 17:33
Ben wrote:As a matter of fact, I do :)http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/jbfh/Picture004.jpghttp://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/jbfh/Picture005.jpgEdit - Hmmm....I guess I don't know how to use the software here yet. Copy those URLs into your browser to see it.
Sweet man ,Marino took the tail off his ...but that is the babe...love those!!
Don't ever leave your hands on the neck of those though!!(Heavy neck...or light body...whatever the case is!)
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Chris
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28 Aug 2007 01:51
Believe it or not, this one isn't neck heavy. It doesn't balance as well as a Fender, but you can let go without it hitting the floor. I have mixed feelings about the tailpiece.... I wish it was a stop bar, but it stays in tune pretty well once it's setup, so it's not that bad. I really like the big ebony block, too :)